Ben Roy is a founding member of The Grawlix, lead singer of the band SPELLS, a standup comedian, and co-creator of the TruTV show Those Who Can’t. He’s also an incredible intense dude, a complete chatterbox, and one of the nicest people I’ve ever interviewed on this show.

He’s a force of nature onstage, and while that may make him seem off-putting, I guarantee that if you see him out in the wild (when we’re all doing that again), he will talk your ear off, ask you about yourself, and show you remarkable gratitude for expressing appreciation for his work.

On this week’s show – and, fair warning, we go long – you’ve got two legitimate windbags ready to connect and tee off on a broad range of subjects. We talk about that recent insidious “plandemic” video making the rounds, how to sow dischord in a society for nefarious ends, defending the system when your punk rock ethos rages against that impulse, why creating a television show is such a grueling (and rewarding!) experience and a ton more.

It’s not as heavy as I’m making it sound, but it is all over the place. Ben is insanely well-read, has opinions on just about everything, a deep wealth of experience to draw from, and an effusive, engaging and friendly manner. Of course we went long.

Find Ben on Twitter and Instagram. Be sure to listen to Grawlix Saves the World. And check out his band SPELLS. They’ll melt your face.

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